Kroon Harness for 944 Turbo

[NCGermerican]

Question for @NCGermerican: in your YouTube videos your 951 is supported by QuickJacks. Since there isn't an approved jacking point in the front that lines up with the one in the rear, how are you supporting the vehicle without damaging the floor? The attached image shows the not-approved location with the red arrow.

Because I think there’s a difference between using those locations as support points vs jacking points. When you lift the car with quickjacks, you’re spreading the load of the car over 4 locations. When you jack the car from that location, you’re putting much more of a load on that specific location. I’ve been using the quickjacks for a few years on my 944s with no issues.

Those points in the front were used as the cars went down the assembly line at the factory, so they can handle at least some weight.

[Latitude48]

Question for @NCGermerican: in your YouTube videos your 951 is supported by QuickJacks. Since there isn't an approved jacking point in the front that lines up with the one in the rear, how are you supporting the vehicle without damaging the floor? The attached image shows the not-approved location with the red arrow.

Because I think there’s a difference between using those locations as support points vs jacking points. When you lift the car with quickjacks, you’re spreading the load of the car over 4 locations. When you jack the car from that location, you’re putting much more of a load on that specific location. I’ve been using the quickjacks for a few years on my 944s with no issues.

Those points in the front were used as the cars went down the assembly line at the factory, so they can handle at least some weight.

Thanks for the feedback. I've seen 968 owners use them on RL and always wondered if they did any damage. Do you recall which model QuickJack you have? And do you need to use any support blocks in the front or rear to get everything level?

[Tom]

Question for @NCGermerican: in your YouTube videos your 951 is supported by QuickJacks. Since there isn't an approved jacking point in the front that lines up with the one in the rear, how are you supporting the vehicle without damaging the floor? The attached image shows the not-approved location with the red arrow.

Because I think there’s a difference between using those locations as support points vs jacking points. When you lift the car with quickjacks, you’re spreading the load of the car over 4 locations. When you jack the car from that location, you’re putting much more of a load on that specific location. I’ve been using the quickjacks for a few years on my 944s with no issues.

Those points in the front were used as the cars went down the assembly line at the factory, so they can handle at least some weight.

I agree with that. Very different when all four are used simultaneously and pushed straight up, compared to a single pushing a disproportionate amount of weight at an angle... I'm sure there is still some risk, but less than the typical floor Jack scenario.

[NCGermerican]

Question for @NCGermerican: in your YouTube videos your 951 is supported by QuickJacks. Since there isn't an approved jacking point in the front that lines up with the one in the rear, how are you supporting the vehicle without damaging the floor? The attached image shows the not-approved location with the red arrow.

Because I think there’s a difference between using those locations as support points vs jacking points. When you lift the car with quickjacks, you’re spreading the load of the car over 4 locations. When you jack the car from that location, you’re putting much more of a load on that specific location. I’ve been using the quickjacks for a few years on my 944s with no issues.

Those points in the front were used as the cars went down the assembly line at the factory, so they can handle at least some weight.

Thanks for the feedback. I've seen 968 owners use them on RL and always wondered if they did any damage. Do you recall which model QuickJack you have? And do you need to use any support blocks in the front or rear to get everything level?

I’ll do a specific video on my YouTube channel for this to show it.

[AudiSport]

4 points is same as any service lift a dealer or anyone would do.

[Latitude48]

4 points is same as any service lift a dealer or anyone would do.

But in the front don't they typically use the inner frame rail?

[NCGermerican]

Just an update so folks can get an idea of timing and cost. I received the new harness from Kroon this past Wednesday.

Timing
Original harness shipped from Raleigh, NC to the Netherlands via UPS (UPS Worldwide Expedited) on Saturday, January 3rd.
Harness Delivered to Kroon in the Netherlands: Thursday, January 7th
New Harness shipped from Kroon (UPS Worldwide Express Plus): Tuesday, January 13th
Harness arrived Thursday, January 15th

Total Time from shipping the old harness to receiving the new harness: 8 calendar days

Cost
Shipping old harness from Raleigh, NC to Netherlands (UPS Worldwide Expedited): $285
Engine harness for Porsche 944 TURBO (951) 1987 art.no: 951.607.021.02: €1,698 ($1,845)
Modification for MAF sensor engine harness Porsche 944 TURBO (951) art.no: 951.607.021.MAF: €59 ($64)
Shipping new harness from Netherlands to Raleigh, NC (UPS Worldwide Express Plus): €197 ($214)
Import Duties and UPS Fees: $35
*Kroon listed as "Sample Wiring Harness"

Parts: $1,909
Shipping: $534
Total Cost: $2,426

Shipping sucks.

Time to install!

[Latitude48]

Curious how you got such a favorable exchange rate, which looks to be about 1.09 times the Euro, when the current rate is more like 1.16? Looking forward to your installation video. Cheers.

[NCGermerican]

Curious how you got such a favorable exchange rate, which looks to be about 1.09 times the Euro, when the current rate is more like 1.16? Looking forward to your installation video. Cheers.

Honestly, I used ChatGPT to do a conversion when I created the post. I'm actually filming the install now! I hope to have it posted on Tuesday at noon EST.

[Latitude48]

Curious how you got such a favorable exchange rate, which looks to be about 1.09 times the Euro, when the current rate is more like 1.16? Looking forward to your installation video. Cheers.

Honestly, I used ChatGPT to do a conversion when I created the post. I'm actually filming the install now! I hope to have it posted on Tuesday at noon EST.

ChatGPT needs an update, ha, ha... I just used Google Gemini to convert 1,698 Euros and it came back $1.996.95, so basically ~ $1.16 per Euro.