My new 944 ... and it's issues

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Tom wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:49 pm Well... good news and bad news. The bad news is I cannot find that right-hand drive ring contact for the steering wheel. The good news is I have a brand new, still in Porsche baggie, left-hand drive version, part # 928.347.099.00 No idea how I ended up with this in my garage, but am thinking maybe I exchanged the wrong one after already sourcing the right one for my car. I dunno... At any rate, if you pledge your never-ending allegiance to Carpokes, get everyone you've ever met to join, and name a warm-blooded pet or favorite houseplant after me, I'll send you this one gratis. :)


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PSU_Crash wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:23 pm
Tom wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:49 pm Well... good news and bad news. The bad news is I cannot find that right-hand drive ring contact for the steering wheel. The good news is I have a brand new, still in Porsche baggie, left-hand drive version, part # 928.347.099.00 No idea how I ended up with this in my garage, but am thinking maybe I exchanged the wrong one after already sourcing the right one for my car. I dunno... At any rate, if you pledge your never-ending allegiance to Carpokes, get everyone you've ever met to join, and name a warm-blooded pet or favorite houseplant after me, I'll send you this one gratis. :)


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My suggestion is take your time and enjoy the ride if it runs make sure you keep it running. These cars hate to sit around. Fix the big issues. One being fire hazards and that’s fuel lines front to back and any wiring issues. After that short starts. Then check look and smell. Drive short distances only. That security system needs to be removed. Track the wires backwards and remove it. There’s a daily simple and clear wire path from battery to key to starter. This is an analog car. There a several fuel hoses near the fuel rail that need attention because they hover over the exhaust manifold begging to start a fire. They aren’t cheap. Battery and wire are easy fixes. Starter replacement is a good idea. Keep the old one for spare. After that keep driving it. The only way to live with these cars is to be senstive to sounds and smells. That also includes mold which indicates leaks from sunroof and clogged drain holes. More could be said. I do have a YouTube page with the history of what I do to keep mine going. Good luck and again. Time heals all wounds with steady repairs and $ to delayed maintenance.
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Schrockahasi wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 1:42 pm My suggestion is take your time and enjoy the ride if it runs make sure you keep it running. These cars hate to sit around. Fix the big issues. One being fire hazards and that’s fuel lines front to back and any wiring issues. After that short starts. Then check look and smell. Drive short distances only. That security system needs to be removed. Track the wires backwards and remove it. There’s a daily simple and clear wire path from battery to key to starter. This is an analog car. There a several fuel hoses near the fuel rail that need attention because they hover over the exhaust manifold begging to start a fire. They aren’t cheap. Battery and wire are easy fixes. Starter replacement is a good idea. Keep the old one for spare. After that keep driving it. The only way to live with these cars is to be senstive to sounds and smells. That also includes mold which indicates leaks from sunroof and clogged drain holes. More could be said. I do have a YouTube page with the history of what I do to keep mine going. Good luck and again. Time heals all wounds with steady repairs and $ to delayed maintenance.
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I have put a LOT of time into fixing the obvious issues. Fuel lines have all been replaced. Security system is removed. Battery cables have also been replaced. The first month of owning this car saw all kinds of general maintanence items replaced, as documented earlier in this thread. Previous owner did not love this car, but I do.
Once it seemed good to go I started with a few short trips and kept wifey on stand-by, just in case. Now I don't hesitate to drive this 944 anywhere at any time. Words I will live to regret, I'm sure :D
No worry about it sitting. I've been driving the wheels off it and paying close attention to sounds and smells. I do get a good bit of exhaust smell in that car after a while. Originally I attributed that to the hood/cowel seal being shot. After changing it there wasn't much difference though. There may very well be an exhsust leak toward tthe fron or even at the manifold that I haven't hunted down yet. That sounds like a winter project to me. Bushings and engine mounts are the next projects on the short list. For now it runs great and drives great, so I drive it!
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Time for an update!
I've put about 1k miles on the car since purchase now and it is running/handling GREAT! The only think I've done since posting is take the cluster apart to try and diagnose the odometer randomly quitting on me. I took it all the way apart looking for slop in the gear setup and didn't find anything that looked problematic. Per advice from some other sources I see where guys have added a small spacer to tighten up the side to side of the gear that fails, which I have replaced. So I blindly did this with a couple pices of thin plastic. 300 miles down and it is still working. The most I logged before this was around 250 before it quit. Maybe I "fixed" it ... time will tell.

It is almost time to check timing and balance belt tension. I know the balance belt was installed too tight. There is the slight supercharger sound from it that seems tell tale of an over tightened balance belt. At least I hope it's that and not a bearing :D

Now for the fun story. I brought the car to discount tire on thursday to get the tires re-balanced. I had a bit of a vibration at highway speeds that seemed to to tire balance.
When I brought the car in I explaned to the guy at the counter that you can not just jack this up where ever you want. Showed him on the car where the jack point was and he seemed to understand. As they pulled the car into a bay I wandered around the front so I could watch. Trust, but verify. Immedietely 2 guys with 2 jacks go under the pinch welds and start pumping away. I ran into the shop grabbed one guy and said W T F are you doing!? Put it down, NOW. Then proceeded to explain those aren't structural and definitely not a jack point ... as they had been told. His response was "How can I rotate the tires with only one side up at a time?" First off, no one said anything about rotation, I just want the balance checked.
20 minutes later they bring the keys to me and say it's done. One front wheel was indeed out of balance. At this point I had to check for damage from their jack. Yep, caved in the front pinch weld a bit. At this point I had to breath deep for a minute before going in to talk to the manager. Pulled him out to the car and explaned what played out. Up to this point I did a good job of keeping my cool and not cussing at them ... until he says, "O, I see. It's not that bad" To which I replied Not that bad!? I don't car if it was just a scratch. The point is your guys did exactly what they were very specifically told NOT to do and resulted in damage to my car, no matter how small, that is not ok. Now I may have been a little loud, but the guy is finally understanding that I'm irate.
A lot of "we are really sorry this happened, I'll talk to the tech ... yadda yadda ... What can we do to make this right?" I'm seeing red and told them how about you go find a clean 86 944 without caved in pinch welds and we swap. In hindsight that may have been a bit silly, but it happened. Now it's time for paper work and to file a claim with their insurance. Which they did and I was contacted yesterday. The insurance contact already knew the whole story. At least they told the truth when filing a claim.

Now, I'm supposed to get quotes to have it repaired. I'm not sure how you would even repair something like that. Put in on the frame machine and pull down, I guess? I'd bet most 944s out there already have this damage from improper lifting. The damage isn't really a big deal. Although I will continue on. If for nothing else, to make a point.
That was my excitement for the week :thumbdown:

Any suggestions on what I should do? I'm sure my local frame shop will have a way, but the odds they have ever worked on a Porcshe of any variety is low.

The only bright note is that I no longer have vibration from the front. So there's that at least.
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Re pinch weld damage, I found the following. Maybe it helps?

https://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche ... video.html


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My odometer did the same thing last week. Just stopped working and when I pulled it out and tested, everything worked fine on my little test station. I'm tempted to make a new gear with thicker shoulder -- kind of a built-in spacer -- to keep the gears meshed...


Sorry about the jack points. Any decent body shop should be able to pull them back. Unless you can feel a bump under the carpet, it's largely a cosmetic issue these days since most know not to jack there anymore. That said, on a good 2-post lift where all the jacking points share the car's weight and go up smooth and straight, those points can be used. It's the floor jacks that tend to crush them. :( When I get new tires for the 944, or have them balance, I take them off at home and toss them in the back of the truck. Your story is a perfect example why, unfortunately.

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Tom wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 10:09 am My odometer did the same thing last week. Just stopped working and when I pulled it out and tested, everything worked fine on my little test station. I'm tempted to make a new gear with thicker shoulder -- kind of a built-in spacer -- to keep the gears meshed...


Sorry about the jack points. Any decent body shop should be able to pull them back. Unless you can feel a bump under the carpet, it's largely a cosmetic issue these days since most know not to jack there anymore. That said, on a good 2-post lift where all the jacking points share the car's weight and go up smooth and straight, those points can be used. It's the floor jacks that tend to crush them. :( When I get new tires for the 944, or have them balance, I take them off at home and toss them in the back of the truck. Your story is a perfect example why, unfortunately.
I usually take the wheels off and bring them in too. I know better, but the weather has been great and I wanted to drive. Never again.

Blueline thanks for the link! I'll be sure to check it out. Maybe I'll take the insurance money and fix it myself.

Tom, making that shoulder just a bit wider on the side toward the center may help since thats what the spacer does. I wish I took the mics to that plastic before I put it all together. Can't be more than 0.020" I'd guess.
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Finally found a shop willing to fix the crushed pinch weld. They took one look and said no problem. We will put in on the frame machine and get that straight as new, then reapply undercoating for $975. Way less than I was expecting! Sent the quote to the discount tire insurance agent and got paid the next day! Now I just need to make a plan to get the car over there.

I also replaced the clip that holds my O2 sensor plug on the back on the manifold. That's the only work I've really done since the last update.

about 600 miles since the last odometer "fix" and still going strong. So all is well in my 944 world. Over the winter I plan to replace the drivers door wiring harness. Step 1 to get the windows and mirrors working.
New fog lights, A pillar covers, wiper motor, interior repairs and maybe speakers. Even though the stock seem to be in fine shape and sound decent.

While in the hatch a couple nights ago I made the mistake of pulling out the privacy cover. Of course it did not retract ... or I don't know how to retract it. My guess is that I'll be taking it out to see how I can manually retract it and fix it up. Any suggestions there?
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Regarding the cargo cover, a few thoughts...
The renn forum place has a few threads under the 924/931/944/951/968 heading
Terms cargo cover and spring or repair should find them.
Clark's also has a procedure for fixing the cover.
There seem to be two main areas of failure: bits of the mechanism (fatigue) and broken or tired spring. They work---and fail---in a similar way to roller blinds. If the spring gets tired then pulling slightly on the blind to release the stop for the blind to wind up just leads to more blind being drawn out. I've had some luck getting a stubborn cover to retract during warm weather (and now don't use it). In theory, they're a reasonably simple mechanism but fixing it might need adaptation of other parts, although the end caps are available.

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