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Re: Break-in period?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:00 am
by wem
I have made the 1000 mile trip between Atlanta, Georgia and Westport, Connecticut 6 times. I break up the trip to stay overnight in Raleigh, North Carolina mainly because I don't want to be in a Walmart parking lot at 2 am to get car jacked. I can comfortably do the 400 mile leg from Georgia to NC with two stops (each about 20 to 25 minutes long), and the second 600 mile leg with three stops. I use the Electrify America network. I try the 350kW chargers first. If I have problems with the 350 kW chargers, I move over to the 150kW chargers. In the real world the 150kW chargers don't add much more time (less than 10 extra minutes) to get to a similar state of charge. Much of the charging speed depends on the state of charge of the battery (lower is better - less than 10%), and battery temp (high 80s to low 90s is best). I have achieved above 260kW on a charger which is really fast. Many times it takes me more time to go into the store to use the facilities and grab a drink and snack to go, then it takes to kill the 20 minutes. The Electrify America charging network continues to grow (approx 75 miles b/t chargers along the east coast I-95 corridor) and the reliability is better. I have not been stranded at any EA charger on my road trips.
The 800v system on the Taycan and the lack of waiting in a queue to get access to a charger is what makes the Taycan a better road trip car than the Tesla. Range is not an issue. Driving more than 250-270 mile segments is a recipe for getting DVT clots and dozing off. It is better to get out every few hours to stretch your legs and wake up. By the way, my favorite option on my Taycan is the massage seats. It makes a huge difference on road trips.
Re: Break-in period?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:03 am
by Tom
wem wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:00 am
I have made the 1000 mile trip between Atlanta, Georgia and Westport, Connecticut 6 times. I break up the trip to stay overnight in Raleigh, North Carolina mainly because I don't want to be in a Walmart parking lot at 2 am to get car jacked. I can comfortably do the 400 mile leg from Georgia to NC with two stops (each about 20 to 25 minutes long), and the second 600 mile leg with three stops. I use the Electrify America network. I try the 350kW chargers first. If I have problems with the 350 kW chargers, I move over to the 150kW chargers. In the real world the 150kW chargers don't add much more time (less than 10 extra minutes) to get to a similar state of charge. Much of the charging speed depends on the state of charge of the battery (lower is better - less than 10%), and battery temp (high 80s to low 90s is best). I have achieved above 260kW on a charger which is really fast. Many times it takes me more time to go into the store to use the facilities and grab a drink and snack to go, then it takes to kill the 20 minutes. The Electrify America charging network continues to grow (approx 75 miles b/t chargers along the east coast I-95 corridor) and the reliability is better. I have not been stranded at any EA charger on my road trips.
The 800v system on the Taycan and the lack of waiting in a queue to get access to a charger is what makes the Taycan a better road trip car than the Tesla. Range is not an issue. Driving more than 250-270 mile segments is a recipe for getting DVT clots and dozing off. It is better to get out every few hours to stretch your legs and wake up. By the way, my favorite option on my Taycan is the massage seats. It makes a huge difference on road trips.
Wait, why don't you have to wait behind the Teslas? Does the charge station need to match the car? (I can't imagine there are any Subaru charge stations since they haven't sold their first EV yet....?)
Re: Break-in period?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:19 am
by wem
The high speed Tesla superchargers are proprietary to Tesla. Tesla also uses a different connector in the US than all of the other manufacturers. There are adapters for Teslas to use the non-Tesla chargers, and adapters for the rest of us to use the non-Supercharger Tesla chargers called destination chargers (lower speed chargers usually at hotels or parking garages). It is not uncommon on the highway for Tesla owners to wait in a queue until a spot opens up for a Supercharger. The Superchargers operate on a 400v system vs the Taycan 800v system. This is the reason for the faster charging speeds (shorter charging sessions) on each network's high speed chargers (EA vs. Supercharger).
All of the manufacturers other than Tesla can use the same chargers w/o any adapters (Electrify America, EVgo, Chargepoint, blink, etc.).
Most of this is meaningless for people who don't road trip since most homeowners with EVs plug in at home at night (and have a "full tank" each morning - you really only charge to 85% to preserve battery health and stability of the lithium ion cells). My car is currently in Connecticut where I do not have access to a home charger so I rely almost exclusively on the Electrify America chargers to fill up about once a week. With the included 3 years of free 30 minute sessions on EA chargers, I haven't paid anything to run the car since October.
Re: Break-in period?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:23 am
by audi4t
WEM
Hi I guess we are neighbors x 2
I live in Gainesville Ga about 9 months of the year and have a summer place (June, July and August)in Madison Ct
Maybe see you around
Re: Break-in period?
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:42 am
by wem
audi4t wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:23 am
WEM
Hi I guess we are neighbors x 2
I live in Gainesville Ga about 9 months of the year and have a summer place (June, July and August)in Madison Ct
Maybe see you around
That is a crazy coincidence AND we both have green Porsches.
Re: Break-in period?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:08 pm
by dr bob
I predict that a lot of along-the-way restaurants, hotels and such will figure out how charging stations in their parking lots will help e-drivers make theirs the choice place to stop. Petrol stations have hazards that make them less friendly for things like pumps in the restaurant parking lot. No such hazards for the plug-ins. In NN years, petrol stations will be the rarity. Demand and supply will grow together.
Re: Break-in period?
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:10 pm
by YWGT3
While there's no break-in period for the EV Porsche, I'd go easy on its new set of tires for at least the first 500 miles. It's tempting to put the new Taycan through its paces, but the new tires will undoubtedly take a beating, especially given the EV's instant and rapid acceleration.
Re: Break-in period?
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:49 pm
by toddinmd
IT's good to break in new tires, because of the mold release compounds used in manufacturing. The beak-in miles wear the compounds off the tires.