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Re: Track car prep
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:52 pm
by blueline
chris white wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:11 pm
Although Porsche Club racing in 911 Cup Cars is an amazing show of bad driving by a small part of the field. Typically 2 or 3 cars don’t finish the first lap…at $200k per car!
Amazing, isn't it!
Re: Track car prep
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:26 pm
by chris white
blueline wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:52 pm
chris white wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:11 pm
Although Porsche Club racing in 911 Cup Cars is an amazing show of bad driving by a small part of the field. Typically 2 or 3 cars don’t finish the first lap…at $200k per car!
Amazing, isn't it!
I learned a lesson a couple of years ago, during Thursday practice a cup car driver pancaked the entire side of his car into the Armco. I figured he was done. Kelly Moss was taking care of the car and when I saw it the next day they had overnighted in the entire side of the car, body, suspension (front and rear), radiators…everything. He was back on track after lunch. I’m guessing his freight bill was close to my seasons budget when I used to race! To top it off I overhead the driver on his cell phone chatting with his buddy. Best dumb ass quite ever..’you should have seen how fast I was going just before I crashed’. He had no idea just how dumb that was!!
Re: Track car prep
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:45 pm
by blueline
chris white wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:26 pm
blueline wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:52 pm
chris white wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:11 pm
Although Porsche Club racing in 911 Cup Cars is an amazing show of bad driving by a small part of the field. Typically 2 or 3 cars don’t finish the first lap…at $200k per car!
Amazing, isn't it!
I learned a lesson a couple of years ago, during Thursday practice a cup car driver pancaked the entire side of his car into the Armco. I figured he was done. Kelly Moss was taking care of the car and when I saw it the next day they had overnighted in the entire side of the car, body, suspension (front and rear), radiators…everything. He was back on track after lunch. I’m guessing his freight bill was close to my seasons budget when I used to race! To top it off I overhead the driver on his cell phone chatting with his buddy. Best dumb ass quite ever..’you should have seen how fast I was going just before I crashed’. He had no idea just how dumb that was!!
Unbelievable scenario. And the quote you overheard is even more unbelievable. The whole incident takes Arrive & Drive to an almost unreal level.
Alfred E Neuman - "What, me worry?"
Re: Track car prep
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:43 pm
by ROB III
I think large bank accounts and lack of mechanical appreciation/sympathy/skill can lead to a ' eh, its only money' perspective. I used to run a Crossle FF in Club Ford at SCCA regionals 30 years ago with a borrowed single axle trailer and loved it as it was mostly guys just trying to have fun and not lock wheels. Nothing wrong with being competitive but as Chris said.....its only a plastic trophy. Maybe running with the latest greatest trick parts at the pointy end of the class has an impact on perpsective and why you are racing in the first place.
Re: Track car prep
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:11 pm
by chris white
To me the guys that look like they are having the most fun are spec 944 / boxster and Miata’s, lots of good competition and skills work better than $. I have always felt that the challenge of good track driving is to extract the mist out of what you have on any given day.
Progress!!:
Re: Track car prep
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:23 pm
by blueline
chris white wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:11 pm
To me the guys that look like they are having the most fun are spec 944 / boxster and Miata’s, lots of good competition and skills work better than $. I have always felt that the challenge of good track driving is to extract the mist out of what you have on any given day.
Progress!!:
Awesome! You are making big progress - congrats on the hard work and dedication. Keep us in the loop as the build continues.
Re: Track car prep
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:28 am
by Tom
Wow, looks like a whole different car painted like that. Did you paint it in place? Drop cloths? Makes me feel exceptionally slow and lazy since I still haven't even finished my tiny little rust patch on the Mercedes yet... Very much looking forward to watching the progress as the car come together.
Re: Track car prep
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:22 am
by chris white
I'm using 2k Epoxy primer that comes in a spray can. Good stuff, you have to break a seal inside the can and mix the two parts and then spray. Minimal overspray and the overspray that does fall on the floor is already dry and can be swept up easily. I planning for top coat middle of the week - its supposed to be 60 here so I can open the garage door and have some ventilation. going with a 'normal' epoxy top coat and that will have a lot of overspray and fumes.
Re: Track car prep
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:02 pm
by Tom
chris white wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:22 am
I'm using 2k Epoxy primer that comes in a spray can. Good stuff, you have to break a seal inside the can and mix the two parts and then spray. Minimal overspray and the overspray that does fall on the floor is already dry and can be swept up easily. I planning for top coat middle of the week - its supposed to be 60 here so I can open the garage door and have some ventilation. going with a 'normal' epoxy top coat and that will have a lot of overspray and fumes.
I love the Spray Max catalyzed paint. A local paint shop will mix to code and put any color I need in those cars. Among other things, it holds up to brake cleaner and other solvents that melt through un-catalyzed paints on contact. You don't get the same level of control as you would with a full spray gun set up, but for smaller jobs it take all of the hassle out of spraying true automotive paint. Here's my battery box done with that paint after patching rust holes....
Re: Track car prep
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 7:55 pm
by chris white
Tom wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:02 pm
chris white wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:22 am
I'm using 2k Epoxy primer that comes in a spray can. Good stuff, you have to break a seal inside the can and mix the two parts and then spray. Minimal overspray and the overspray that does fall on the floor is already dry and can be swept up easily. I planning for top coat middle of the week - its supposed to be 60 here so I can open the garage door and have some ventilation. going with a 'normal' epoxy top coat and that will have a lot of overspray and fumes.
I love the Spray Max catalyzed paint. A local paint shop will mix to code and put any color I need in those cars. Among other things, it holds up to brake cleaner and other solvents that melt through un-catalyzed paints on contact. You don't get the same level of control as you would with a full spray gun set up, but for smaller jobs it take all of the hassle out of spraying true automotive paint. Here's my battery box done with that paint after patching rust holes....
It’s really handy stuff, lots less over spray than a traditional gun.