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I agree, a nice front splitter does wonders. I love the front of a 951. It’s held up great, even better than 968 to my eyes. As for the rear, the bumper lets it down. Even the Euro version.

My preference would be a 968 rear bumper with maybe smaller modern taillights (or even the same stock lights) and no center panel or reflector. Best of both worlds.

Definitely a subjective opinion, but personally I like the look of the redesigned rear. My only question (or concern) would be having "PORSCHE" on the rear twice. Either one is fine by me but I would prefer one or the other, not both.

blade7 wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:47 am I don't see much 'taste' in cladding the rear of the car in this plastic bling. And we already know what the evolution of the 944 looks like, it's called the 968. All just imo obviously.

As always, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some folks want a perfectly resorted stock 944 and I can understand that. I don’t think there is a market yet for highly restored 944s in the 6 digits. In reality I think our market is closer to a non DIY guy that was thinking about buying a Caymen or nice BMW. Give them the same performance, build quality and amenities along with bank financing and I think they will like being in a unique car.

BTW – you already have a stock front end cladded in add on plastic bling!
BTW2 – if you look at a stock turbo rear, then the 968 and then this one you can see the design progression.

blueline wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:01 am Definitely a subjective opinion, but personally I like the look of the redesigned rear. My only question (or concern) would be having "PORSCHE" on the rear twice. Either one is fine by me but I would prefer one or the other, not both.

Agreed – Im not a big fan of the embossed PORSCHE. We may fill that in and used a modified version of the PORSCHE sticker under the tail lights.

944m3 wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:58 am I agree, a nice front splitter does wonders. I love the front of a 951. It’s held up great, even better than 968 to my eyes. As for the rear, the bumper lets it down. Even the Euro version.

My preference would be a 968 rear bumper with maybe smaller modern taillights (or even the same stock lights) and no center panel or reflector. Best of both worlds.

You are touching on an interesting design theme. For decades the cool thing to do was to swap in 968 mirrors and door handles and possibly the rear spoiler to ‘update’ the 944. I’ll admit that I thought it was cool at some point. Not anymore, I prefer the original parts on a 944. Adding the others just seemed to say ‘I really wanted a 968 but couldn’t afford it’.
A lot of the 968 update (from fenders on back) is really new plastic stuck on a 944. The rockers and quarter panel add on works but it stands out as an add on. The rear bumper cover is a nice evolution but the quarter panel seam is not too smooth and a pain to keep looking good as it ages.
In the end we do need a ‘signature’ on this design that allows you to recognize the vehicles.

blueline wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:01 am Definitely a subjective opinion, but personally I like the look of the redesigned rear. My only question (or concern) would be having "PORSCHE" on the rear twice. Either one is fine by me but I would prefer one or the other, not both.

What I shared is an earlier iteration of the bumper. The current iteration doesn't have "Porsche" twice. It is only in the imprinted bumper section, not embossed on the center panel. Also, the earlier iteration had dual use LEDs in the back for reverse lights and as blinkers but this too has been updated to only serve as reverse lights. Blinkers are maintained in the main housing.

barnwerks wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 6:02 am Some of the styling ideas of this bumper are attractive. The concept of stick-on body parts however is a no-go for me. It's like a comb-over for your 944. If I remember correctly, there was no accommodation for impact protection with this design either.

I doubt 70's impact protection makes much of a difference today but a crash bar can easily be integrated into the design for additional support. 2-3 hours max with a couple of weld points, done and done.

chris white wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:15 am
BTW – you already have a stock front end cladded in add on plastic bling!
BTW2 – if you look at a stock turbo rear, then the 968 and then this one you can see the design progression.

The turbo front end was introduced in 1985 and wasn't stuck on top of what was already there. You've already referenced Singer, do they slap aftermarket plastic on top of metal on their cars? The rear quarters, rear quarter glass, bonnet, front wings and headlamps are all re engineered on the 968. Perhaps you should concentrate on the go, and leave the show to someone with a better eye.

blade7 wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:50 am

chris white wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:15 am
BTW – you already have a stock front end cladded in add on plastic bling!
BTW2 – if you look at a stock turbo rear, then the 968 and then this one you can see the design progression.

The turbo front end was introduced in 1985 and wasn't stuck on top of what was already there. You've already referenced Singer, do they slap aftermarket plastic on top of metal on their cars? The rear quarters, rear quarter glass, bonnet, front wings and headlamps are all re engineered on the 968. Perhaps you should concentrate on the go, and leave the show to someone with a better eye.

Well, in all fairness, Singer is not apples-to-apples with what Chris and company are attempting. With Singer pricing starting at $500k and up, I would expect cars from there to have vastly different approaches.

blade7 wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:50 am

chris white wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:15 am
BTW – you already have a stock front end cladded in add on plastic bling!
BTW2 – if you look at a stock turbo rear, then the 968 and then this one you can see the design progression.

The turbo front end was introduced in 1985 and wasn't stuck on top of what was already there. You've already referenced Singer, do they slap aftermarket plastic on top of metal on their cars? The rear quarters, rear quarter glass, bonnet, front wings and headlamps are all re engineered on the 968. Perhaps you should concentrate on the go, and leave the show to someone with a better eye.

First off this is always a subjective choice. Some will like it and some wont.
The ‘plastic’ turbo nose was actually stuck on to the NA front end. So Porsche led the way with sticking plastic add Ons, I happen to like the turbo nose over the NA so I’m not complaining. Porsche then slapped on a new ‘plastic’ lower diffuser…again, I’m not complaining, I think it worked out well but makes for a lot of elements to the rear of the car especially with the US bumper. Then Porsche went a step further and covered and entire rear with a ‘plastic’ cover for the 968.
The cover we are looking at is high quality fiberglass and quite rigid. Once we have some we are going to see if we can integrate it better – no seam in the quarter panel and a better solution at the rear tail lights.

And yes, Singer does use ‘Plastic’ add ons…..although he might take offence to your wording! Some people hate what Singer does, other people hate the idea of a 356 outlaw. If you don’t like them nobody is forcing you to buy one.