I got the 18-ways, because they were a free option and felt fine, but have to say once I was in the seat and had it adjusted, the 4-way, 14-way, and 18-way all felt pretty much the same to me. I probably use 2 or 3 or the 18 adjustments.... And, agreed, the lightweight package does have those unique items, but I think your question is the right one -- are they worth $11.4k alone? A good friend of mine bought the original GT4 and broke the windshield driving home -- a rock flew up and that was that. The dealer put a new one in and made it just like new, but I can't help but wonder how much that would cost with this lightweight glass....?911R wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:28 pmThanks, I agree.Tom wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:51 am..I studied the seats a lot when I ordered mine, and I got the 18-way adjustable seats. There are 4 seats available: 4-way adjustable; 14-way adjustable; 18-way adjustable; and the "Full Bucket Seats" (aka Light Weight Bucket Seats (LWBS)..
To be clear:
1) The 4-way is forward and back on the sitting and with forward and back on the back position? No electric adjustments as it's all manual.
2) The 14-way has electric controls to find the best spot? The above with some electric lower back settings? It has memory.
3) The 18-way allows electric seat side bolters (with memory.
4) The Full Bucket Seats have the 'carbon fiber' stiff frame with minimum comfort? It's a racing seat and not particularly comfy? It may have slots in the upper back setting for a harness strap?
Have you considered working for Porsche?
Just quoting here:
On that build spec, one thing to consider is that you have the light weight package selected for $11,400 without the LWBS's.
Yes, that was my first choice at first.
Personally, I'd either ditch the light weight package entirely, or get it with the LWBS. In terms of saving weight, the light weight package offer VERY little weight reduction without the LWBS -- like 11 pounds total by my math if you get the 18-way seats. The car would actually be lighter overall without the lightweight package and the 4-way seats. All that said, on this car, with all of its massive power and grip, I don't think that 20 pounds here or there are worth thinking about. That's the difference between a full tank of gas and 7/8ths of a tank..
I agree and this was my original 2nd choice. It should be called the slightly lighter option----
It's nice to have the LW Package with the thinner glass and "exclusive design exhaust tailpipes" with the computer steering code. Yet, is it really worth the extra price?
The car would actually be lighter overall without the lightweight package and the 4-way seats. Ditch the lightweight package and get the 18-way seats with PASM and the front axle lift, and you'll be a happy camper --
I will probaly just dump the LW and go the 18-way.
Although I have the 4-way on my current 992. It's comfortable, and no one else drives it (my wife has never driven one of my seven 911's (she says they are loud and too stiff). I don't argue.
I just got an offer on a new 992 Turbo to be delivered this year
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It is a Turbo. I borrowed the picture off the Porsche site when picking Agate Grey Metallic w/ Burgundy. I can't buy a GT3 at all.Larry C wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:39 pm....Is the photo of the agate gray / burgundy a turbo or turbo s?
I was on the next Turbo S allocation list, but they called me when they received an unexpected allocation of Turbo cars. I then started to look at the Turbo this year over a Turbo S a year later.
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Sorry, I didn't notice another post here.
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Complaining section: The internet Porsche customer section needs to be upgraded. It has older tech on each car. It isn't what you can get. It's not very helpful in determining the car that you may want to buy. /rant over
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Sorry Tom,
It's just that Larry and you have been very helpful in determining my new Porsche car.
I left a message to my dealer about the Burgundy interior in a LW (two+ days ago). It seems it is now called Bordeaux Red in 2023. No go when you pick Burgundy
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They sent me back a code = PPD5S8G9
The above was sent to me before our discussions about the proper seats and windshields. It's basically says that you can order parts of the LW w/o ordering the entire option.
It's still a $200K car but needs to be my car. No deposit deadline is mentioned.
Has anyone else ever paid a deposit? Just asking as I have ordered twelve cars with no deposit. It's not like a new Porsche Turbo will sit in the back parking lot waiting for a new buyer?
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Complaining section: The internet Porsche customer section needs to be upgraded. It has older tech on each car. It isn't what you can get. It's not very helpful in determining the car that you may want to buy. /rant over
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Sorry Tom,
It's just that Larry and you have been very helpful in determining my new Porsche car.
I left a message to my dealer about the Burgundy interior in a LW (two+ days ago). It seems it is now called Bordeaux Red in 2023. No go when you pick Burgundy
They sent me back a code = PPD5S8G9
The above was sent to me before our discussions about the proper seats and windshields. It's basically says that you can order parts of the LW w/o ordering the entire option.
It's still a $200K car but needs to be my car. No deposit deadline is mentioned.
Has anyone else ever paid a deposit? Just asking as I have ordered twelve cars with no deposit. It's not like a new Porsche Turbo will sit in the back parking lot waiting for a new buyer?
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911R wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:26 pm Sorry, I didn't notice another post here.
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Sorry Tom,
It's just that Larry and you have been very helpful in determining my new Porsche car.
I left a message to my dealer about the Burgundy interior in a LW (two+ days ago). It seems it is now called Bordeaux Red in 2023. No go when you pick Burgundy.
They sent me back a code = PPD5S8G9
The above was sent to me before our discussions about the proper seats and windshields. It's basically says that you can order parts of the LW w/o ordering the entire option.
It's still a $200K car but needs to be my car. No deposit deadline is mentioned.
Has anyone else ever paid a deposit? Just asking as I have ordered twelve cars with no deposit. It's not like a new Porsche Turbo will sit in the back parking lot waiting for a new buyer?
No apologies needed at all. Ordering a new Porsche these days is not for the faint of heart. When I bought my first brand new car, a 1987 rx7, I think there were 3 or 4 'trim levels' and that was it. They had 4 or 5 colors for the paint, and I think all the base models (like mine) came with the same grey fabric interior. Compare that to the never-ending and ever-changing list of Porsche options and it's no wonder that people are constantly asking for opinions on their build codes online. (The only difference is you don't get berated and chastised here for not picking whatever options some other guy thinks are 'correct' for you....but I digress.)
When I got my first Turbo in 2018, I spend hours and hours on the configurator and asking people about various options, but still ended up wasting money on some options that weren't worth it (mostly stitching) and leaving off options I added to the '21....
Bordeaux is a nice leather color. When I went to match that color in paint, all the closest matches were called some kind of Burgundy, but I guess 'Bordeaux' sounds fancier.
Not sure if its the same everywhere, but here in CA, the dealer can take a deposit, but it doesn't obligate you to buy anything and you can ask for it back anytime. My dealer always asks for $5k to order a car, but since they could end up getting stuck with the car, they also tend to make sure they are not ordering a pink elephant they wouldn't be able to sell. Agate over Bordeaux is a classic though, so the dealer should have no concerns about that one. I think it's just the policy at many dealers when ordering a car.
Not sure what's going on with your build codes. This one, like the last ones, bring up a message in Portuguese saying it can't find the code.....?
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The first time that I remember leaving a deposit for a car was for my Porsche. They asked for $5,000. I said how about $3,000. They agreed. As Tom mentioned, in California it’s fully refundable.Tom wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:15 pm911R wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:26 pm Sorry, I didn't notice another post here.
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Sorry Tom,
It's just that Larry and you have been very helpful in determining my new Porsche car.
I left a message to my dealer about the Burgundy interior in a LW (two+ days ago). It seems it is now called Bordeaux Red in 2023. No go when you pick Burgundy.
They sent me back a code = PPD5S8G9
The above was sent to me before our discussions about the proper seats and windshields. It's basically says that you can order parts of the LW w/o ordering the entire option.
It's still a $200K car but needs to be my car. No deposit deadline is mentioned.
Has anyone else ever paid a deposit? Just asking as I have ordered twelve cars with no deposit. It's not like a new Porsche Turbo will sit in the back parking lot waiting for a new buyer?
No apologies needed at all. Ordering a new Porsche these days is not for the faint of heart. When I bought my first brand new car, a 1987 rx7, I think there were 3 or 4 'trim levels' and that was it. They had 4 or 5 colors for the paint, and I think all the base models (like mine) came with the same grey fabric interior. Compare that to the never-ending and ever-changing list of Porsche options and it's no wonder that people are constantly asking for opinions on their build codes online. (The only difference is you don't get berated and chastised here for not picking whatever options some other guy thinks are 'correct' for you....but I digress.)
When I got my first Turbo in 2018, I spend hours and hours on the configurator and asking people about various options, but still ended up wasting money on some options that weren't worth it (mostly stitching) and leaving off options I added to the '21....
Bordeaux is a nice leather color. When I went to match that color in paint, all the closest matches were called some kind of Burgundy, but I guess 'Bordeaux' sounds fancier.![]()
Not sure if its the same everywhere, but here in CA, the dealer can take a deposit, but it doesn't obligate you to buy anything and you can ask for it back anytime. My dealer always asks for $5k to order a car, but since they could end up getting stuck with the car, they also tend to make sure they are not ordering a pink elephant they wouldn't be able to sell. Agate over Bordeaux is a classic though, so the dealer should have no concerns about that one. I think it's just the policy at many dealers when ordering a car.
Not sure what's going on with your build codes. This one, like the last ones, bring up a message in Portuguese saying it can't find the code.....?
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That works! It says the no-sunroof and ornamental crest are no longer available, so not entirely sure what roof you'd end up with?911R wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:48 am Try this link:
https://www.porsche.com/microsite/porsc ... =/PPD6S8G9
(Clink OK to find the configuration)
Not sure if you've been in a car with PASM, but by all reports that makes for a pretty stiff ride. I initially checked that box on my car and unchecked it at the last minute after being warned by a friend how harsh it seemed. It's totally subjective, so impossible to know, but my car seems plenty stiff without it, and I'm not sure I'd want it any stiffer unless I planned to track it. PASM does lower the car a bit, though, which would be nice. PCCD is not checked on this build either and, from what I can tell, really does add another level of control to the suspension, without adding harshness/stiffness. No right answer on either, but worth thinking about in light of your own priorities.
I also love the 'surround view' and 'lane change assist' on my car. The surround view gives you a bird's eye view of your car and everything around it as you park and move around close objects. It takes all the guess work out of knowing how close you are to the garage door, garbage car, parked cars, trees, etc. Lane change assist uses lights in the rear view mirrors to tell you when it is clear to change lanes -- it eliminates blind spot issues and saves your neck...
There are also endless esthetic options, emblems, stickers, etc. This build is pretty stealth in that regard, which may be exactly what you are going for. I added some gloss black to highlight my white paint, and a Turbo S sticker on the side -- both of which make it a bit unique. You may not be into that, but I just mention it in case you didn't consider adding a few things to make it uniquely yours.
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Nice build! FWIW, I have PASM on my 718 GTS 4.0. The suspension actually feels a bit less harsh than my last two Audis. This is my first Porsche so I don’t know how it would compare with No PASM.911R wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:48 am Try this link:
https://www.porsche.com/microsite/porsc ... =/PPD6S8G9
(Clink OK to find the configuration)
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Yeah, I also don't know how PASM on a 718 compares to PASM on a 992 Turbo? They are different enough cars that I suspect the only real commonality between the two PASM systems is the marketing label....? Here's what Car & Driver said about the 992 Turbo S PASM: Our test car arrived with the optional PASM sport suspension that drops the car 0.4-inch on higher-rate springs and recalibrated adaptive dampers. On certain bumps, the chassis shot us out of the saddle like a PBR bull. Yeehaw, then ouch. And it happened in the Normal drive mode, not in the more unyielding Sport or Sport Plus settings.Larry C wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 4:25 pmNice build! FWIW, I have PASM on my 718 GTS 4.0. The suspension actually feels a bit less harsh than my last two Audis. This is my first Porsche so I don’t know how it would compare with No PASM.911R wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:48 am Try this link:
https://www.porsche.com/microsite/porsc ... =/PPD6S8G9
(Clink OK to find the configuration)
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Thanks for the comments. This code was prepared by the sales guy at the dealer to show the red interior and the comfortable seats.
1) I'm sure I'll delete the LW glass.
2) I like the sport exhaust but want the silver tailpipes. I want to hear the two big turbo's force air/93 octane into the 3.8L engine.
3) Thanks for PASM tech. I'll have to do more research on it. In the old days (2 years ago), you could drive one at the dealer.
4) The wheels seem expensive. I may also drop them. The standard wheels look nice.
5) Did I miss something? I do want a simple look.
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Thanks for the deposit tech. I'll have to read the deposit agreement to figure that out for guys in GA. At today's prices, I feel that they can easily sell it to someone else if I back out.
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This was my second new Porsche 911 which was a 2014 Porsche 911 (991.1). It was fully optioned with a $84,300 MSRP. The sticker was $103K:

It's something that says to me that I should keep my current 2020 Porsche 3.0L Carrera? I'd keep it except the taxes are $7500 more to keep it.
Who knows? It has 6800 miles on it?

New code: http://www.porsche-code.com/PPL7RWD2
1) I'm sure I'll delete the LW glass.
2) I like the sport exhaust but want the silver tailpipes. I want to hear the two big turbo's force air/93 octane into the 3.8L engine.
3) Thanks for PASM tech. I'll have to do more research on it. In the old days (2 years ago), you could drive one at the dealer.
4) The wheels seem expensive. I may also drop them. The standard wheels look nice.
5) Did I miss something? I do want a simple look.
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Thanks for the deposit tech. I'll have to read the deposit agreement to figure that out for guys in GA. At today's prices, I feel that they can easily sell it to someone else if I back out.
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This was my second new Porsche 911 which was a 2014 Porsche 911 (991.1). It was fully optioned with a $84,300 MSRP. The sticker was $103K:

It's something that says to me that I should keep my current 2020 Porsche 3.0L Carrera? I'd keep it except the taxes are $7500 more to keep it.
Who knows? It has 6800 miles on it?

New code: http://www.porsche-code.com/PPL7RWD2
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