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Harness and Mounting Bar
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:04 am
by Dogzard
I am looking at installing a full harness, mounting bar and roll-bar in my 718 GT4. I have the LWBS. Any suggestions for the belts and harness mounting hardware?
Also, the passenger seat cushion doesn't have the cut-out for the anti-sub belt. I am assuming that since our right-hand seat is used in the UK as a driver's seat, that it is only the cushion and I can fairly easily revise the upholstery.
Re: Harness and Mounting Bar
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:32 pm
by Tom
Dogzard wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:04 am
I am looking at installing a full harness, mounting bar and roll-bar in my 718 GT4. I have the LWBS. Any suggestions for the belts and harness mounting hardware?
Also, the passenger seat cushion doesn't have the cut-out for the anti-sub belt. I am assuming that since our right-hand seat is used in the UK as a driver's seat, that it is only the cushion and I can fairly easily revise the upholstery.
Sorry, no input on the cage, but hoping
@Crazy Eddie sees this, as I'm sure he could answer the cushion question....
Re: Harness and Mounting Bar
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:38 pm
by Crazy Eddie
Tom wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:32 pm
Dogzard wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:04 am
I am looking at installing a full harness, mounting bar and roll-bar in my 718 GT4. I have the LWBS. Any suggestions for the belts and harness mounting hardware?
Also, the passenger seat cushion doesn't have the cut-out for the anti-sub belt. I am assuming that since our right-hand seat is used in the UK as a driver's seat, that it is only the cushion and I can fairly easily revise the upholstery.
Sorry, no input on the cage, but hoping @Crazy Eddie sees this, as I'm sure he could answer the cushion question....
That’s strange I thought the car is in the UK and Europe had both seats with the sub belt HOLE?
It’s relatively easy for a decent upholsterer to open up the seam and stitch where needed so that you can have a sub belt hole through the passenger side. Remember you also have to add a hole through the carbon fiber unless the UK‘s and European cars come with that ? aAs well as adding a bar underneath where are you’ll attach the sub belt. Hope that helps

Best
Ed
Re: Harness and Mounting Bar
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:24 am
by Dogzard
Crazy Eddie wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:38 pm
Tom wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:32 pm
Dogzard wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:04 am
I am looking at installing a full harness, mounting bar and roll-bar in my 718 GT4. I have the LWBS. Any suggestions for the belts and harness mounting hardware?
Also, the passenger seat cushion doesn't have the cut-out for the anti-sub belt. I am assuming that since our right-hand seat is used in the UK as a driver's seat, that it is only the cushion and I can fairly easily revise the upholstery.
Sorry, no input on the cage, but hoping @Crazy Eddie sees this, as I'm sure he could answer the cushion question....
That’s strange I thought the car is in the UK and Europe had both seats with the sub belt HOLE?
It’s relatively easy for a decent upholsterer to open up the seam and stitch where needed so that you can have a sub belt hole through the passenger side. Remember you also have to add a hole through the carbon fiber unless the UK‘s and European cars come with that ? aAs well as adding a bar underneath where are you’ll attach the sub belt. Hope that helps

Best
Ed
That helps. I'll check the RH seat in the next week while when I do the clean prior to winter storage. I'll report back with what I find out.
Re: Harness and Mounting Bar
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:16 pm
by Dogzard
Dogzard wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:24 am
Crazy Eddie wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:38 pm
Tom wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:32 pm
Sorry, no input on the cage, but hoping @Crazy Eddie sees this, as I'm sure he could answer the cushion question....
That’s strange I thought the car is in the UK and Europe had both seats with the sub belt HOLE?
It’s relatively easy for a decent upholsterer to open up the seam and stitch where needed so that you can have a sub belt hole through the passenger side. Remember you also have to add a hole through the carbon fiber unless the UK‘s and European cars come with that ? aAs well as adding a bar underneath where are you’ll attach the sub belt. Hope that helps

Best
Ed
That helps. I'll check the RH seat in the next week while when I do the clean prior to winter storage. I'll report back with what I find out.
So, the passenger's seat does not have a pass through for an anti-sub belt

Wanted to have equal protection for both seats.
Re: Harness and Mounting Bar
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:04 pm
by Fsstlap
I can tell you in terms of harnesses, I’ve had sparco and Schroth. I found schroth to feel better in terms of quality including the locking mechanism. The sparco was good, just that schroth felt better.
Re: Harness and Mounting Bar
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:41 am
by Dogzard
Fsstlap wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:04 pm
I can tell you in terms of harnesses, I’ve had sparco and Schroth. I found schroth to feel better in terms of quality including the locking mechanism. The sparco was good, just that schroth felt better.
That's good feedback. The quality and feel of the locking mechanism is important. It's amazing how annoying a sticky release can be. Plus, if I ever have to get out of car fast, I don't want to spend a few extra moments fighting with a belt.
Re: Harness and Mounting Bar
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:33 pm
by Fsstlap
I finally installed harness bar and 6 point. I would say it took me about 10 hours total. Took my time. Spent a lot of time removing panels carefully.
This is a competition Motorsports roll bar. The harness are the Porsche specific schroth 6 point. I also purchased the anti sub bar from CMS.
Overall quality parts. Critique include the seat does not recline all the way back anymore. Maybe lose a click or two . Also the anti sub bar was easy to install but it makes the seat make a loud click sound at a certain point mid way up, when you move the seat up or down with the power button. I was worried and uninstalled and installed again. When I removed the anti sub bar, noise went away, installed again to be able to run the belts, noise came back. Either way I won’t be moving the seat often since I’m the one that drives it 99% of the time.